Comments on Otagosh: Jesus and the Pauline Betrayal

"The Jewish Koran"I dunno Bob, there are some pret...

2008-05-09T11:35:00.000+12:00

"The Jewish Koran"

I dunno Bob, there are some pretty fundamental differences between the Torah and the Old Testament, which even a cursory read of an English translation of the former will reveal.

Don't get me wrong, the Septuagint version of the OT is still just as OT as ever it was, pillar-of-fire and bashes-babies-against-walls included.

Since you obviously can't discard the NT, as you are now an evangelical christian, how are you reconciling this dichotomy in your mind? Or are you of the "let go and let god" mindset as far as this is concerned?

No offense intended, I am genuinely curious.

I've had more of an opportunity to give this topic...

2008-04-15T03:47:00.000+12:00

I've had more of an opportunity to give this topic some thought over the weekend.

Basically, if we are not permitted to mitigate the Old Testament by seeing it as pointing to Jesus Christ, and if the writings of Paul are not allowed to be perceived as elucidating the teachings which Jesus intended for after the resurrection, then we are left with discarding the entire New Testament.

Unfortunately, this leaves us with what one might call the Jewish Koran.

BB

This is indeed perplexing. Dr. Wilson appears to ...

2008-04-14T06:26:00.000+12:00

This is indeed perplexing. Dr. Wilson appears to arrive at the same doctrinal position once occupied by Herbert W. Armstrong, a position in which Mosaic or Jewish law is still largely in effect, even for Christians.

Armstrong's methodology was somewhat different, in that he believed in the inerrancy of scripture, that is with the exception of an occasionally convenient mistranslation or two. HWA was, therefore, unable to discount Paul. So, he tried to do the impossible. Based on the idea that Jesus taught careful observance of Mosaic Law, HWA attempted to harmonize the teachings of Paul with the teachings of Jesus. That left Paul in the clear, so that the alleged hijacking of Christianity could be attributed to one Simon Magus, an early gnostic heretic.

Dr. Wilson's work will most likely be seen by most Christians as being based on something unthinkable: scriptural errancy. The thinking will be that if Paul's teachings were error, how could God have allowed them to creep into His word? There is also the Jewish perspective, which would be that the entire New Testament IS error.

As Mick Jagger once threw up his hands and sang, "What can a poor boy do, 'cept to play in a rock n roll band?"

BB