tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post2741594263105180362..comments2024-03-12T11:58:24.510+13:00Comments on Otagosh: Original Sin and Sin of OriginGavin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17965552923012880262noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-70663438761631341072012-04-04T12:25:16.778+12:002012-04-04T12:25:16.778+12:00Augustine only 'converted' because his mom...Augustine only 'converted' because his mom arranged him a marriage to wealthy Catholic lady. He was interested in the wealth more than the lady, I'm sure, since he promptly left his whore by whom he had had so many illegitimate childrens to marry the money -- because he knew that with money like that he'd have a shot at becoming a bishop! Which, of course, back then was like being Mayor or something, maybe even bigger than Mayor since Bishops could have an affect on the whole Empire and sit in Ecumenical Councils -- so more like a Congressman. So one day, after his mommy arranged for him to marry Miss Money, he conveniently opened the Bible accidentally to "thou shalt not be a drunk" after hearing a voice from heaven (muttered by his own self) "Tolle Lege" and then he kicked his whore out in the street to become a prostitute and left his children to starve and became a great saint to set all us Pelagians strait and how us how to properly live the Christian life!!!! Amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-55307628351197212112012-02-29T04:12:32.069+13:002012-02-29T04:12:32.069+13:00I have an idea. Instead of asking "is it pos...I have an idea. Instead of asking "is it possible?" or "is it plausible", wouldn't it make sense to ask "which is more likely?"?<br /><br />So I ask, which is more likely: (1) that God plays favorites and the Hebrews were his chosen people or (2) that these were made-up stories that are no better nor worse than the made-up stories of other cultures throughout the world.The Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02327459017793489626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-34815920850044120212012-02-28T16:37:40.841+13:002012-02-28T16:37:40.841+13:00It states in Wikipedia: "In the first five ch...It states in Wikipedia: "In the first five chapters of Genesis the word אָדָם ( 'adam ) is used in all of its senses: collectively ("mankind"),[1:27] individually (a "man"),[2:7] gender nonspecific, ("man and woman")[5:1,2] and male."<br /><br />When someone poses the question "was there a historical adam?" what exactly are they asking? The word adam itself was a play on words. Hence, when making an assertion, one must always explain in what sense the term adam is being used in order to be properly understood.<br /><br />My reading of the Bible is that it permits either a single man named adam or a collection of men referred to as adam. It is strategically unclear. Either view works and a distinction is not made because it is not imporant to the concept. <br /><br />Is it possible that God elevated the sentience of mankind at some point so the true import of sin could be understood? Is it possible that a group of neolithic Middle Easterners, probably haplogrop J1, led the fledglng human civlization in a rejection of God preciptating a sea change in that civilization? This is plausible but represents only one interpretation. <br /><br />-- NeoAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08487906691943831671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-25588764765289495952012-02-28T13:29:53.845+13:002012-02-28T13:29:53.845+13:00Just come to grips with the fact the Adam and Eve ...Just come to grips with the fact the Adam and Eve story is myth and we cannot be blamed for sins committed by Hansel and Gretel.DennisCDiehlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10417850852638492246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-78599156913892453242012-02-28T09:30:55.561+13:002012-02-28T09:30:55.561+13:00i'm with you on Augustine - not even the least...i'm with you on Augustine - not even the least of his theological sins. But to be fair if he hadn't come up with all that tosh, someone else would have, none of us are as unique as we like to think.Jonathan Robinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18295840754661890186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-84367278045596422602012-02-28T03:21:21.939+13:002012-02-28T03:21:21.939+13:00Analyzing the Booklist of Dr James McGrath, http:/...Analyzing the Booklist of Dr James McGrath, http://www.blogger.com/profile/02561146722461747647, I can see by a number of these titles that he has already matriculated from his agonizing reconciliation with Darwin. Good for him! That makes three now: Enns, Murphy and McGrath, still christians, still drawing serious money from the simple peasants.Minimalisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07394978086891772878noreply@blogger.com