tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post4178872178277576464..comments2024-03-12T11:58:24.510+13:00Comments on Otagosh: Headline TheologyGavin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17965552923012880262noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-4500877466516757302011-06-24T10:26:49.992+12:002011-06-24T10:26:49.992+12:00"In fighting for ascension to the highest pos...<em>"In fighting for ascension to the highest possible exposure, using Headline Theology is only going to be effective if the branding is right."</em><br /><br />Yes, and no. If by "branding" you mean something along the lines of "Grace Communion International" returning to its roots, restoring the true name of the Church, and once again beginning to fulfill the Great Commission (from Matt. 28, if you're picky-choosy with the longer ending of Mark), that would be effective for <em>me</em>...I can't speak for anyone else, obviously. If you consider that "re-branding" and merely another "corporate church" ploy, Douglas, than so be it; but you need to drag those overly-large beams from the eyes of that <em>other</em> corporate religion, professing Christianity, before you accuse the WCG <em>as a whole</em> of being evil, wrong, etc.<br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases#Statistics_on_offenders_and_victims" rel="nofollow">For example:</a><br /><br /><em>"The 4,392 [Catholics] priests who were accused [of sexual abuse offences] amount to approximately <strong>four percent of the 109,694 priests in active ministry</strong> during that time. Of <strong>these 4,392</strong>, approximately:<br /><br /> * <strong>56 percent</strong> had one reported allegation against them; <strong>27 percent</strong> had two or three allegations against them; nearly <strong>14 percent had four to nine allegations against them</strong>; 3 percent <strong>(149 priests) had 10 or more allegations against them.</strong> These <strong>149 priests were responsible for almost 3,000 victims</strong>, or 27 percent of the allegations.[15]"</em><br /><br />Did anything on <em>that</em> kind of a scale happen in the Worldwide Church of God, I ask you?<br /><br />Well, did it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-46650540304625364592011-06-23T10:20:55.802+12:002011-06-23T10:20:55.802+12:00Be careful here: CGI usually is thought of as the ...Be careful here: CGI usually is thought of as the Common Gateway Interface -- one of the earliest Internet programming protocols, without which, cgi.org would never have come into existence. It is also Computer Generated Imagery. More rarely, it also stands for Compacted Graphite Iron, Corrugated galvanised iron and Cell Global Identity, unique identifier of a cell site in cellular networks such as GSM and UMTS.<br /><br />Cgi.com is a Computer consulting company. There's also California Graduate Institute, an independent graduate school specializing in psychology and the Catholic Guides of Ireland, a girl guide association. My actual favorite is Coast Guard Intelligence, but only because the Canadian Coast Guard got aced out of ccg.org.<br /><br />Even in the Armstrongist Churches of God, branding is a problem with CGI, ICG, Eternal CoG, CoG Eternal and a whole host of variants including A Church of God. At least the last one will be near the top of the list.<br /><br />In fighting for ascension to the highest possible exposure, using Headline Theology is only going to be effective if the branding is right.<br /><br />And as we know, style changes so quickly these days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-20438570051182248612011-06-20T01:41:45.195+12:002011-06-20T01:41:45.195+12:00"If the Adventists are switching from prophec...<em>"If the Adventists are switching from prophecy to creationism - and they champion the literal six-day version - I'd say that ain't much of an improvement."</em><br /><br />I agree. Even pre-Adamic Man is better than YEC! But CGI is strange, anyway; their weird verbal tics, and constant references to popular movies/pop culture etc., is off-putting at best...their utter lack of Biblical knowledge or fluency is disgusting, at worst.<br /><br />That said, my only contact with CGI is yelling at a few of their video sermons they've posted online....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-13299046176916092132011-06-19T08:36:02.747+12:002011-06-19T08:36:02.747+12:00The "Headline Theology" thing comes up i...The "Headline Theology" thing comes up in an interview in the latest Journal with two CGI (as opposed to GCI) ministers in Texas.<br /><br />If the Adventists are switching from prophecy to creationism - and they champion the literal six-day version - I'd say that ain't much of an improvement.Gavin Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17965552923012880262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-15906594334238131432011-06-19T02:56:12.894+12:002011-06-19T02:56:12.894+12:00Gavin, I'd love to know which minister you hea...Gavin, I'd love to know which minister you heard preach against Headline Theology.<br /><br />Perhaps he's come to realize you can only cry "wolf" so many times. The folks at Family Radio may still need to learn that lesson.<br /><br />Bob, the SDA's have been famous for holding Revelation seminars - but when an Adventist evangelist came to my city for a campaign a few years ago, he switched the focus.<br /><br />That preacher says more people are interested in creation/evolution issues than prophecy nowadays - so that was the theme of his campaign.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11058030312904622191noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-91434562175987349522011-06-17T16:15:06.315+12:002011-06-17T16:15:06.315+12:00I reckon it would be interesting to see how the pr...I reckon it would be interesting to see how the prophecies about Assyria would come to pass. Considering that Assyria doesn't exist and Assyrians don't even have a homeland anymore...<br /><br />In case anyone becomes confused by Armstrongism, Assyrians are Semitic and Germans are Aryan.<br /><br />And no, bible students, Syria and Assyria are not the same thing.Corkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-72717950023123009352011-06-16T08:57:25.390+12:002011-06-16T08:57:25.390+12:00What an absolutely lovely opportunity to lampoon t...What an absolutely lovely opportunity to lampoon the whole thing with a biting satirical parody.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-18609840354703926652011-06-16T06:59:41.592+12:002011-06-16T06:59:41.592+12:00I no longer believe that the purpose of prophecy i...I no longer believe that the purpose of prophecy is to prepare us in advance so that we can escape before an assortment of dire circumstances hits. I also don't believe that prophecy's primary role is that of a "hook" by which individuals are called into specific church groups.<br /><br />God can protect His people wherever they may find themselves as prophetic events unfold. That, of course is more logical, as it gives such people an opportunity to help others to understand what is transpiring. That, it would seem, is the proper manifestation of Christian love for neighbor.<br /><br />In so many cases, one can only know that a prediction was God-inspired prophecy after it has been fulfilled. After the fact, this provides reassurance that God is in control. When humans attempt to co-opt prophecy, use it to underscore their authority, make it all about themselves, their church, their role, they are bound to fail.<br /><br />BBByker Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15602697337552385535noreply@blogger.com