tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post5719713556194753952..comments2024-03-12T11:58:24.510+13:00Comments on Otagosh: Marcion & MoreGavin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17965552923012880262noreply@blogger.comBlogger1125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-6386654678841474302012-04-14T06:49:05.721+12:002012-04-14T06:49:05.721+12:00In Jesus' temptation in the wilderness, the de...In Jesus' temptation in the wilderness, the devil shows Jesus all the kingdoms of the world and offers to give them to Jesus if he will only worship him. He told Jesus that he owned it all "and to whomsoever I will I give it". <br /><br />Now, as we all know, the kingdoms of the world (and everything else) belongs to Yahweh, i.e., according to the OT scriptures. So, is this a Marcionite doctrine and Yahweh is actually the devil (the demiurge)?<br /><br />If so, it makes sense when Jesus said that the Jews were "of your father, the devil", i.e., Yahweh. Was Yahweh a liar from the beginning as the gospel writer says Jesus said? Well, he told Adam that in the day he ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil that he would die. But, instead of dying, Adam gained the knowledge of good and evil. So...yeah.<br /><br />So then, was Marcion right about the god of the old testament being a demiurge (devil)? Nope. Marcion was just as wrong as Tertullian, the father of "orthodoxy" was. Neither one knew what in the hell they were talking about. They were both talking about things supernatural and, therefore, unknown and unknowable.<br /><br />I don't understand how people can think that they know something about a god that in all probability doesn't exist and can't exist. <br /><br />Yes, I do. I used to think I knew something about this god too, but, I came to realize that it wasn't my knowledge but someone else's - the "knowledge" of some people who wrote a book and have been dead for a long, looong time.Corkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.com