tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post7127710175494410382..comments2024-03-12T11:58:24.510+13:00Comments on Otagosh: Calvin was a HobbitGavin Rhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17965552923012880262noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-11807783615679702692010-10-25T03:28:44.101+13:002010-10-25T03:28:44.101+13:00I got nothing connecting Calvin to anything at all...I got nothing connecting Calvin to <em>anything</em> at all, except the fact that people who say "There's only one Chosen Elect!" like we used to, are allegedly Calvinist, or so the epithet goes. Epithet which I've thrown in my time, I admit, but not really understanding what I was saying when I was using it, beyond that it involves the "Special Chosen Elect" theology.<br /><br />Y'know, Gavin, I know you want to move on (Lovecraft's Elder Gods know I want to move on, too.), but you've got to consider the fact that the most-commented on posts here are the ones that still deal with the mess.<br /><br />You know. The Mess. The one that used to be our shared religion, and is now...not. Or is something psychotically in between being a mess and not a mess and nothing much of anything at all.<br /><br />It's always going to be a mess, at least until the very last one of us touched (and I do mean "touched" sometimes) by the whole thing are long gone, dead, and buried. (I include myself in that.) Prior to that time...there will always be tendrils of it, clinging everywhere. <br /><br />Sticky cobwebs hanging from the cluttered attic ceilings inside our heads, the black widow spider at the centre long-since shrivelled-up, but still hanging by a thread. (Appropriate train of thought for Samhain, no?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-52912413020249030.post-85460290339205941312010-10-24T13:59:13.440+13:002010-10-24T13:59:13.440+13:00Sorry, I got nothing connecting Calvin to modern p...Sorry, I got nothing connecting Calvin to modern pop culture, but if you can stand it, there's an old story from the Ozarks that mentions the Calvinist idea that human beings are worthless scum, totally depraved.<br /><br />In a discussion around the stove in a general store, an old hillbilly--excuse me, I should use the politically correct term. An old altitude-enhanced person from a Pentecostal congregation was going on and on about sin. A Primitive Baptist neighbor listened for a while and said, "Wait, I'm not clear exactly what foundation you're working from. Do you believe in the doctrine of total depravity?"<br /><br />The old boy's eyes got shifty, and he pondered the question a good long while. Finally he answered, "Yes, I do, as long as it's lived up to."Retired Profnoreply@blogger.com